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Ambivalent Alumna

Mostly things that I like or complaints about things I don't like and re-blogs of things posted by tumblrers whom I like.
Sep 6 '12
allonsy10:

srvspics:

anyone want to explain to me how showing an ID restricts voting?  You need an ID to drink alcohol, to fly, to rent a hotel room, to rent a car and to enter a federal building. How is showing an ID restricting anyone who is a citizen from fucking voting?
azspot:

Rob Tornoe


Because no one NEEDS to drink, or fly, or rent a hotel room, or rent a car, or enter a federal building. It is not their right to do any of those under the constitution. However, voting is protected and people in rural areas, people that are poor, people that are minorities  do not have the proof of identification needed to GET an ID. Birth certificates are not a given for a lot of people in those conditions, and a disproportionate amount of those people are also poor so they may not have a car or the money to get a passport, two other forms of ID. Beyond all that, however, is that there is NO NEED for this kind of regulation to be introduced. There have been a miniscule amount of cases of voter fraud in the past elections.

Even though I still always thought laws like this were bullshit I really didn’t realize just how hard it is to get an ID, at least in NY. I am a citizen who was born here but my ID had been expired for too long to do it through the mail (I don’t drive and my passport only expired recently so I’d been using that when necessary).
I looked through the DMV list for 4 things that I could bring and there was nothing on the first page that I could use. I was lucky enough to cobble together four things from the second page, and even had a backup by the end of the list after reading the fine print.
Then I was lucky enough that I was able to spend all morning one day at the DMV. It’s only open late one day a week for an hour outside of 9-5 so if you work say 10-6 you’re pretty much screwed because you’re most likely not going to get out of there in an hour.
There were two people in front of me online that were sent home after waiting almost an hour because they didn’t have all the stuff they needed to get an ID.
So, OP, it’s not exactly easy at all. And the amount of voter fraud that actually happens is nothing compared to the amount of people that will be disenfranchised by laws like this. It’s an arrogant, transparent attempt to keep people who conservatives don’t think will vote for them from voting.

allonsy10:

srvspics:

anyone want to explain to me how showing an ID restricts voting?  You need an ID to drink alcohol, to fly, to rent a hotel room, to rent a car and to enter a federal building. How is showing an ID restricting anyone who is a citizen from fucking voting?

azspot:

Rob Tornoe

Because no one NEEDS to drink, or fly, or rent a hotel room, or rent a car, or enter a federal building. It is not their right to do any of those under the constitution. However, voting is protected and people in rural areas, people that are poor, people that are minorities  do not have the proof of identification needed to GET an ID. Birth certificates are not a given for a lot of people in those conditions, and a disproportionate amount of those people are also poor so they may not have a car or the money to get a passport, two other forms of ID. 

Beyond all that, however, is that there is NO NEED for this kind of regulation to be introduced. There have been a miniscule amount of cases of voter fraud in the past elections.

Even though I still always thought laws like this were bullshit I really didn’t realize just how hard it is to get an ID, at least in NY. I am a citizen who was born here but my ID had been expired for too long to do it through the mail (I don’t drive and my passport only expired recently so I’d been using that when necessary).

I looked through the DMV list for 4 things that I could bring and there was nothing on the first page that I could use. I was lucky enough to cobble together four things from the second page, and even had a backup by the end of the list after reading the fine print.

Then I was lucky enough that I was able to spend all morning one day at the DMV. It’s only open late one day a week for an hour outside of 9-5 so if you work say 10-6 you’re pretty much screwed because you’re most likely not going to get out of there in an hour.

There were two people in front of me online that were sent home after waiting almost an hour because they didn’t have all the stuff they needed to get an ID.

So, OP, it’s not exactly easy at all. And the amount of voter fraud that actually happens is nothing compared to the amount of people that will be disenfranchised by laws like this. It’s an arrogant, transparent attempt to keep people who conservatives don’t think will vote for them from voting.

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